Comments on: We see a bright future for Plainfield http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/ Plainfield Park District Referendum Blog Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:52:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: andrew smith http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/#comment-9 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:00:44 +0000 http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/#comment-9 Well , lets see the park district board did decide to buy a horse farm whose costs have exceeded over a MILLION dollars.. boy, I wonder this not sound fiscal behavior, that money could have been used to take care of the areas with NOTHING, and had the possiblity of not alienating areas WHO are not from the baronay of Plainfield. Its Plainfields Park District now..not Plainfield Township Park District. But then again, Of course nothing is free.. but it depends where u live.. if you have nothing in your area.. you pay for nothing.. if you live in plainfield, or ur special intrest group who would greatly benefit from this.. then you get money from areas that have nothing.. well then its too bad for them.. good for us.. I would like to know how long you have lived in the district...it doesnt sound that you are concerned about these underserved areas... where kids live.. and have no where to go with their families to enjoy the outdoors.. in safety. But then again.. Plainfields PD has a habit of doing projects just for one area.. For example trails, which is a breeding ground for crime, plus at the same time no one uses them.. therefor worthless... waste of money.. In response to your comment "Did you ever think that maybe attitudes like yours result in NOT getting projects completed near you when there are people out there that support the park district and what they are trying to do? Wouldn’t it be smart to place parks and facilities where people would use them and appreciate them?" So what you are saying that areas that vote no are and should be penalized for disagreeing with the Park district? If that is the case then it sounds like the BGA, ACLU, and the states attorney should look into this.. this is based on your comment.. basically, you vote no, you get nothing!!! Then my case is made to vote no. I disagree with you begining statement on if the unicorporated areas had a park or recreation center in the area, the rate would be higher.. it would not. But it would mean more a chance of more yes votes on future rate requests since, that area would have a vested interested in the funding of programs.. etc... But with nothing in these areas there is no vested interest to vote for continue to get nothing.. But then again, this is an area whose main industry is homeowners.., and area that is starting to see higher forclosure rates due to taxes.. and lack of strong industrial base. Just homeowners and bad traffic congestion, no public transportatin, this is the main industry of Plainfield. ; Well , lets see the park district board did decide to buy a horse farm whose costs have exceeded over a MILLION dollars.. boy, I wonder this not sound fiscal behavior, that money could have been used to take care of the areas with NOTHING, and had the possiblity of not alienating areas WHO are not from the baronay of Plainfield. Its Plainfields Park District now..not Plainfield Township Park District. But then again, Of course nothing is free.. but it depends where u live.. if you have nothing in your area.. you pay for nothing.. if you live in plainfield, or ur special intrest group who would greatly benefit from this.. then you get money from areas that have nothing.. well then its too bad for them.. good for us.. I would like to know how long you have lived in the district…it doesnt sound that you are concerned about these underserved areas… where kids live.. and have no where to go with their families to enjoy the outdoors.. in safety. But then again.. Plainfields PD has a habit of doing projects just for one area.. For example trails, which is a breeding ground for crime, plus at the same time no one uses them.. therefor worthless… waste of money.. In response to your comment “Did you ever think that maybe attitudes like yours result in NOT getting projects completed near you when there are people out there that support the park district and what they are trying to do? Wouldn’t it be smart to place parks and facilities where people would use them and appreciate them?” So what you are saying that areas that vote no are and should be penalized for disagreeing with the Park district? If that is the case then it sounds like the BGA, ACLU, and the states attorney should look into this.. this is based on your comment.. basically, you vote no, you get nothing!!! Then my case is made to vote no. I disagree with you begining statement on if the unicorporated areas had a park or recreation center in the area, the rate would be higher.. it would not. But it would mean more a chance of more yes votes on future rate requests since, that area would have a vested interested in the funding of programs.. etc… But with nothing in these areas there is no vested interest to vote for continue to get nothing.. But then again, this is an area whose main industry is homeowners.., and area that is starting to see higher forclosure rates due to taxes.. and lack of strong industrial base. Just homeowners and bad traffic congestion, no public transportatin, this is the main industry of Plainfield.

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]]> by: DRKSTR http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/#comment-7 Thu, 24 Aug 2006 03:01:44 +0000 http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/#comment-7 Andrew, if every neighborhood in Plainfield (and the unincorporated areas and Joiet areas within our boundaries) had a park I would think that the tax rate for the park district would be significantly higher than what it is now. For a $300k+ home, which is becoming an inexpensive home in many areas (north <em>and </em>south of the downtown village) the line item on my tax bill for the park district is so small in comparison to other things I have to pay for...even if I don't use it yet (like the schools). Frankly, people who can afford to live here, and benefit from the good schools and booming property values, can afford this insignificant tax increase. Have you expressed your concerns about not having parks near you? Did you ever think that maybe attitudes like yours result in NOT getting projects completed near you when there are people out there that support the park district and what they are trying to do? Wouldn't it be smart to place parks and facilities where people would use them and appreciate them? BUT, nothing is free. Land to build on - and playground equipment to play on - and people to maintain it all don't come cheap. So how do you expect any of this to happen for you unless you vote YES for the referendum and get money to make this happen? Santa can't fit a playground set on his sleigh. Andrew, if every neighborhood in Plainfield (and the unincorporated areas and Joiet areas within our boundaries) had a park I would think that the tax rate for the park district would be significantly higher than what it is now. For a $300k+ home, which is becoming an inexpensive home in many areas (north and south of the downtown village) the line item on my tax bill for the park district is so small in comparison to other things I have to pay for…even if I don’t use it yet (like the schools). Frankly, people who can afford to live here, and benefit from the good schools and booming property values, can afford this insignificant tax increase.

Have you expressed your concerns about not having parks near you? Did you ever think that maybe attitudes like yours result in NOT getting projects completed near you when there are people out there that support the park district and what they are trying to do? Wouldn’t it be smart to place parks and facilities where people would use them and appreciate them?

BUT, nothing is free. Land to build on - and playground equipment to play on - and people to maintain it all don’t come cheap. So how do you expect any of this to happen for you unless you vote YES for the referendum and get money to make this happen? Santa can’t fit a playground set on his sleigh.

]]> by: andrew smith http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/#comment-6 Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:50:55 +0000 http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/#comment-6 In addition since there is no parks in these older areas.. or some new areas.. then * Provides child care * Promotes sensitivity to cultural diversity * Increases community pride * Reduces crime * Increases property value * Strengthens neighborhood involvement * Provides safe places to play are NOT attained thus lowering property values. and making a lot of no votes..and pits those of Plainfield vs. joliet vs. unicorporated areas.. In addition since there is no parks in these older areas.. or some new areas.. then
* Provides child care
* Promotes sensitivity to cultural diversity
* Increases community pride
* Reduces crime
* Increases property value
* Strengthens neighborhood involvement
* Provides safe places to play
are NOT attained thus lowering property values. and making a lot of no votes..and pits those of Plainfield vs. joliet vs. unicorporated areas..

]]> by: andrew smith http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/#comment-4 Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:18:07 +0000 http://www.citizensforparks.com/2006/08/09/hello-world/#comment-4 Excuse me, but that is not whats going on in other areas of the district. There are areas older (more than 60 yrs) in existance that has NOTHING. Bright future for who? Not in these areas. It seems that the village gets all projects.. nothing for the rest... Why should people who live in Joliet have to help pay for a horse facility that cost a million dollars. Excuse me, but that is not whats going on in other areas of the district. There are areas older (more than 60 yrs) in existance that has NOTHING. Bright future for who? Not in these areas. It seems that the village gets all projects.. nothing for the rest… Why should people who live in Joliet have to help pay for a horse facility that cost a million dollars.

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